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Why do dimocrats protect thugs?

leo(law enforcement officer)

Posted 6:59 am, 06/18/2024

Under current NC law, if a juvenile (someone under age 18 when the crime was committed) is charged and convicted of First Degree Murder and they were not tried as an adult they would be held in a Youth Development Center (prison for juveniles) until age 21 then released and their convictions would not show up on a background check because juvenile records are sealed.

hillbilly666

Posted 10:09 pm, 06/17/2024

I agree Joseph.

Acumen

Posted 10:00 pm, 06/17/2024

Joe, I think you make sense.

Joseph T.

Posted 9:03 pm, 06/17/2024

Personally I think you are either a minor or you are not. I am so tired of the your not old enough to do this but your old enough to go on trial as an adult.

DB Cooper

Posted 7:14 pm, 06/17/2024

If you are killed by a thug, it doesn't make much difference to you if the thug was 15 or 50.

leo(law enforcement officer)

Posted 6:17 pm, 06/17/2024

What Cooper forgot to mention is this,
If the District Attorney feels that a juvenile charged with one of the crimes feels it is in the juvenile's best interest and the administration of justice the DA can send the matter back to the district court where the juvenile will be treated as a juvenile and if found guilty they will be treated as a juvenile for incarceration purposes.
As for juveniles who are sentenced as adults they are NOT sent to regular state prisons, the are sent to a prison that houses "youthful offenders", I believe they stay there until they are 25 years old, then if their sentence dictates they are transferred to the regular prison system.
As a side note, I spoke to a friend of mine who works at the Juvenile Detention Center in Taylorsville (across the road from Walmart), he said they have a 24 bed facility and today they were housing 35, he said the population has gotten above 40 several times over the past couple of years. He also said that out of the 35, about 15 were there for murder and attempted murder.

antithesis

Posted 3:15 pm, 06/17/2024

Is the question, why did Cooper veto it?

His explanation...

Most violent crimes, even when committed by teenagers, should be handled in adult court. However, there are cases where sentences would be more effective and appropriate to the severity of the crime for teenagers if they were handed in juvenile court, making communities safer. This bill makes this important option highly unlikely and begins to erode our bipartisan "Raise the Age" law we agreed to four years ago. While a number of Senators worked to make this legislation better than the original bill, I remain concerned that this new law would keep some children from getting treatment they need while making communities less safe. Instead, the legislature should invest significantly more in our juvenile justice system to ensure resources are available to help prevent crimes and appropriately deal with children who break the law.


I think it's funny how both sides use the word "bipartisan." This bill passed with 7 Democrats voting in favor and 34 voting against... is that what we consider to be bipartisan now?


But to the topic, I do think that there can be an issue of cruel and unusual punishment when it comes to children. Let's say that a child is driving a car without a license, wrecks, and kills someone. They can be convicted of involuntary manslaughter, a Class F felony that can result in anywhere from 13 month to 20 years in prison.

But when that child goes to prison, there can be others in the same prison that were convicted of raping a child. Which would obviously make the child a target.

Do you think that 13 months to 20 years of repeated rape is a fair punishment?

Anonymoose

Posted 3:14 pm, 06/17/2024

Roy's veto don't mean nuffin

DB Cooper

Posted 2:27 pm, 06/17/2024

Governor Roy Cooper has vetoed a bill that would modify the state's Raise the Age law. The bill passed with bipartisan support.

Right now, 16 and 17-year-olds are charged as juveniles. Depending on the seriousness of the charge, they can be transferred to adult court, but the process can be lengthy.

House Bill 834 would allow 16 and 17-year-olds to be charged as adults when accused of committing certain crimes. The new bill would return to the previous policy of charging teens automatically as adults for violent crimes that include murder, second-degree murder, rape, sex assault, armed robbery, and assault with a deadly weapon with intent to kill.



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