wilkes

Enforcement is part of regulations....

But whatever you need to help sleep good at night!

Do you find it odd that I pointed out that deregulation might lead to greater competition between more entities just after one o'clock this afternoon? Unless I am mistaken that was before you jumped on that bandwagon. But, thank you for explaining that I was right.

Go to a country with minimal regulations, let me know how it works out for you!

And you have failed to acknowledge that less enforcement due to less inspections is an issue.

Its cute to cherry pick when you dont look at a full picture.

Keep up the snark, it's really amusing.

Market forces dont exist when everything is owned by the few...get it yet?

Once again you turn to the government to provide safeguards that could be handled by market forces if it were not for regulations. Some fear the loss of their safety blanket and cower at being held accountable for their own decisions.

You non-stance on whether there should be fewer regulations, more regulation or whether there is exactly the right amount of regulation in the meat processing industry is too sad to be amusing when one considers the timbre of your chosen title and your first post.

Even your own "source" (the dnyuz.com article) states that there is no known connection between the lessening of regulations and the latest listeria outbreak. While it is nice to find one's own opinions mirrored on-line, speculation and sensationalism do not always equal facts.

The relationship between your title and your first post are (to quote dnyuz) "an interesting connection" at best.

(Was that snarky enough?)

The right don't do research. They read and repost memes. They think that is research.

Solid arguments...

It's like saying the train derailments were Trumps fault when they were clearly Obamas fault

op is a lieberal Mistress Anne. They don't care to do the research to see when things changed to create the current issue. they just want to cry, whine and throw a fit to allude it was the fault of someone they don't like. Facts be danged. The key is to ignore lieberals, whenever possible.

As to why current administration didnt "do anything" about it, my guess would be lobbyists being in all their pockets and I am sure reassured them that nothing like this was going on, until there was. Once again the lack of diversity in corporate america (few own everything) plays a major role in this. Just like the baby formula "shortage" all because one plant got shutdown. Seems like more companies would inspire them to be better.

But you can reach out to them for comment.

As for the 100% comment that you have misconstrued that is in regards to that no matter what is in place, things will inevitably happen for a host of reasons. But there are things you can do to get closer to 100%, taking away regulations is not one of them.

I have enjoyed your snark though!

It all plays together no matter how narrow minded and simplistic you would like it to be.

The part where they left it up to the facilities to regulate themselves. That is the point. When corporations are left to regulate themselves, they will take advantage of it to maximize profits no matter what the outcome is to consumers. These particular meat processing facilities were left to regulate how they wanted to. They had infractions and with less inspections they knew what they could get away with just enough to stay open. Part of regulations, as you have pointed out, is the enforcement, when there is lack of enforcement from a regulatory body due to being understaffed or not being permitted to do more frequent inspections, this is what happens.

https://dnyuz.com/2024/08/2...-and-mold/

https://www.nbcnews.com/pol...s-n1055451

Thank you for providing us with such detailed research. I read the articles with glee.

In case you care for some more.

https://newrepublic.com/art...air-jungle

Standards were left up to the industry themselves to police. Which never works out when few own the entire industry. Regulations are often put in place for a reason. Boars Head Virginia plant is currently shut down until they can clean up their mess they made.

You asked the question, would more regulations have helped, I said no, bit certainly less regulations dont help either. There are lines, as stated in previous threads.

Leaving an industry with too many regulations is bad, and one with too few regulations is bad. Having a company police their own standards rarely works out, because they will undoubtedly cut corners to get their profit margin higher.

If you care to read about the issues at Boars Head, have at it.

https://thecounter.org/trum...peeds/amp/

Was the title of the thread intentionally misleading or were you simply mistaken? You asked in your title "What Happens When Pesky Regulations Are Gone?" then in your opening thread you pointed to Boar's Head.

Another point to be made, when few own everything, this also happens. You point out that Boars Head is the leading producer of deli meats, maybe a more diversified market would help. But when few own everything, there is no desire to be better.

No, but weak regulations often lead to these types of things. Nothing will ever be 100%, so chasing more regulations is not always better. There are lines and compromise that should be made. As seen over and over again throughout history. I did not say more regulations would have prevented it, but do note that tearing away regulations already in place and trusting a company to do the right thing rarely works out.

Corporations have shown over and over again their willingness to cut corners in the name of profit, even if customers are hurt by it.