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Thank you Tribs. I was typing without benefit of caffeine or nicotine. Without those two surging through my system I am apt to sayanything.

The 2nd amendment was ratified in the 18th century.

Mikey is breathtakingly stupid

Forky, I will take that deal. You hold to the Declaration and I will live under the US Constitution. That seems about par for the course for us.

The Declaration mentions "Taxes" exactly once. The Constitution sets out a framework that allows elected representatives to levy taxes necessary to fund the government. The Declaration does not address weapons or firearms while the 2nd Amendment to the Constitution guarantees me the right to both own ("keep" in 19th Century English) and carry ("bear" in that aforementioned colloquial) weapons. The Declaration refers to the Divine three times while the Constitution guarantees me the right to worship in any way I choose or refrain from worshipping if I prefer.

Far from being the binding force that we like to imagine, the Declaration of Independence was seen as a source of division by many. Some Native Americans saw it as a vehicle by which they were going to lose more land and freedoms (British Soldiers were, at the time, restricting English westward expansion,) enslaved people thought the Declaration's demand for freedoms to be ironic at best, and women's rights are expressly ignored. Not even all the "rich white guys" supported the Declaration. In the opening years of our Revolutionary War, John Adams estimated that about a third of the people were supportive of independence, a third supported the crown and the remaining third didn't really care.

This is so entertaining. Imma gonna pop some popcorn.

gentleman. You give control over completely to government. Taxation ever heard of them word. How about surrender your arms? You keep the Constitution I'll keep the Declaration.

https://www.senate.gov/abou...tution.htm

I guess the historical fact that the 2nd Continental Congress voted for Independence two days before they voted to adopt the Declaration of Independence completely went over your head.

Gentleman **** (view profile)

Posted 9:57 pm, 05/31/2024

I imagine that we would have the US Constitution without the Declaration of Independence
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Now that's stupid.

You can't have a Constitution ( We The People of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA in order to form a New Nation?) when the Country is under the Laws of King of England.

I imagine that we would have the US Constitution without the Declaration of Independence.

Dude...just shut up. You were once on here saying how slaves didn't have it so bad

gentleman. Would you have the Constitution without the Declaration of Independence? Yes or No.

The people of America Blacks, White Red fought and died to make America Free from government interference.. .

The federal government is destroying America. Look at the politicization of the DOJ and FBI.

Not to throw off on Forky, I mean Mikey, but the Declaration of Independence is not now, nor was it ever a blueprint on how to run a country. Instead it was more of a declaration of war sent by 13 separate colonies (acting in Confederation) to Great Britain.

The US Constitution, which was adopted some 12 years after the Declaration of Independence, makes no reference to the Declaration.

In between the United States were united under the Articles of Confederation. Few of us have bothered to read the Articles as they aren't exciting.

Mikey, take off your orange colored glasses. I don't do red, to me that color represents Stalinist Russia, Mao's China and Republicans.

tribune (view profile)

Posted 12:37 pm, 05/31/2024

Trump has taken advantage of the constitution to get him in a position to dispose of it for last eight years. If that aint irony it's gotta be dumm close to it.
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Take off your Rose colored glasses.

the dog's butler (view profile)

Posted 12:15 pm, 05/31/2024

Shall we change that to "All men, women and others are created equal"
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What government is saying is that it's the SLAVE Master and does what it wants to because man don't HAVE the ability to take care of themselves. So I would say to hold TRUE to the Declaration.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal.
Period.

Trump has taken advantage of the constitution to get him in a position to dispose of it for last eight years. If that aint irony it's gotta be dumm close to it!

Shall we change that to "All men, women and others are created equal"?

To anyone find Slavery in
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed, by their Creator, with certain unalienable rights.

Just because Great Britain supported and encouraged Slavery doesn't mean America should have followed..

Mikey, you're a real winner! You can make as big a mess in screwing up the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution as you do the scriptures. Does it have anything to do with you having a lobotomy?