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Stoney Greene's confirmed connection to dog fighting and other confirmed allegations

Thomas Hobbes

Posted 6:07 pm, 05/08/2024

I agree we should be aware of those businesses that support illegal activities.

GoWilkes

Posted 6:07 pm, 05/08/2024

This was my first time uploading to YouTube so bear with me, but I hope that this is the slightly more than 5 minute presentation that I gave:


Acumen

Posted 6:04 pm, 05/08/2024

GoWilkes (view profile)

Posted 5:20 pm, 05/08/2024




As far as I know, neither of us gained anything from this; she obviously makes no money from Facebook, and I actually lost a few advertisers (and you can be sure that there are now at least a few businesses that will never, ever advertise with us).

I think you should name these advertisers who will never ever advertise with you again so we, as a community, can decide what to do about them.

GoWilkes

Posted 5:58 pm, 05/08/2024

GoWilkes: Are you saying that you lost advertisers who objected to your research into Stony Greene and posting that research? If so, dog fighting might be an even more prevalent than we thought. Business owners would only withdraw if they think dog fights are acceptable.

@Hepsibah, no one explicitly said that they were canceling because of that so I can't in fairness say that. But I suspect that any business that gets money from the county or from anyone involved in these investigations would have been hesitant to have their name associated with GoWilkes.

I've learned a LOT more than I ever wanted to know about animal fighting in the last 2 months, and one thing I've learned is that Wilkes is very well known in their community! In fact, a study was released in 2021 that found North Carolina is one of the top suppliers in the world of roosters for c*ckfighting.

GoWilkes

Posted 5:52 pm, 05/08/2024

Jason, I looked through this but I don't really understand what I'm looking at. Can you explain how you came to the conclusion that he was involved in "at least 9 pit fights" and "provided at least 36 dogs for pit fighting?"

@antithesis, absolutely! I gave the presentation at yesterday's meeting, and I did my best to go fast and strictly state facts, but I STILL needed another 2 minutes So I think that the presentation may have been just as confusing, too.

Again, here's the link to the visual aid that I used during the presentation:
https://www.gowilkes.com/stoney (this is a PDF file, 15 pages long)

Throughout the presentation I refer to apbt.online-pedigrees.com; this is a common site for APBT members to post their own dogs and pedigrees. It costs $30 /year to have a membership, so it's highly unlikely that anything on the site would be fake.

His 2001 arrest is well documented, so in the presentation I skipped ahead to page 4.

On page 4 and 5, you'll see two magazine ads for Killer Klown Kennels. In these you'll see that he owned "Ch. Justice" (short for "Champion Justice"), "Gr Ch Buck" (short for "Grand Champion Buck"), Gr Ch Mayday, Ch Black Pazmanian, and Gr Ch Andy Capp.

You'll also see that "Ch Justice" sired Bully Boy (4XW), Chilli (2XW), Miss Thing (1XW), Szar (1XW), and JJ (game loser).

Now if you skip ahead to pages 7 and 8, you'll see that it's well documented that the title Ch. / Champion is a title that means that the dog has won 3 consecutive pit fights, Gr.Ch. / Grand Champion means that the dog has won 4 consecutive pit fights, and 4XW means that the dog has won 4 pit fights (non-consecutive or the dog would be a Grand Champion).

** In those magazine ads alone, you can see that Stoney Greene's dog, Justice, was the winner of 3 consecutive pit fights, and had 5 offspring that had been in pit fights.

On page 10 I show where Justice's list of offspring had been updated to show 14 offspring.

On page 12, I show another dog, "Ch Victoria (3XW/1XBIS) ROM"; this time bred by Stone Hard. This dog is also a Champion and 3 time winner, and the page shows the fight times. This page was posted on April 9, 2013.

The 1XBIS means "1 time best in show", which she won after here 1 hour and 41 minute fight.

ROM means that Victoria had birthed at least 3 other Champions.

** At this point, we know that Victoria was in 3 pit fights and birthed at least 3 more pit fighters.

Page 13, though, shows that Victoria had birthed a total of 21 offspring.

This is where I had to stop in the presentation to the Commissioners

But you can continue on to page 14 to find "Ch Frank Lucas", owned and bred by Stone Hard Kennel. The "Champion" title means that this dog has won 3 consecutive pit fights, and you can see that this page was posted on September 6, 2020 and last updated on November 2, 2020.

** At this point, you can see that Stoney Greene's dog "Frank Lucas" has won 3 consecutive pit fights.

And finally, you can see on page 15 that "Frank Lucas" has had one offspring that appears to have been for sale on June 4, 2021.

Those 3 dogs alone (Justice, Victoria, and Frank Lucas) all have the title of "Champion", so all 3 have been in at least 3 pit fights; thus, 9 pit fights.

And those 3 dogs alone have had 36 offspring that were sold or for sale based on their pedigree, which could only mean that the buyer would want them to train for pit fighting.

Each of these are Class H felonies, with a minimum sentence of 4 months in prison. And there are no statutes of limitations on felonies in NC.

Hepsibah

Posted 5:28 pm, 05/08/2024

GoWilkes: Are you saying that you lost advertisers who objected to your research into Stony Greene and posting that research? If so, dog fighting might be an even more prevalent than we thought. Business owners would only withdraw if they think dog fights are acceptable.

backontrack

Posted 5:21 pm, 05/08/2024

Just so long as u tax the hookers and they tips also, our sources is in. Trucker for commie!

GoWilkes

Posted 5:20 pm, 05/08/2024

Good to meet you yesterday, Metal! We've "known" each other on here for, what, 18+ years?


I'm going to reply to @antithesis in a minute, but first I want to address the comments regarding GoWilkes vs. Facebook / Megan.

I love Megan to death, I've considered her to be a friend for a long time, and to my knowledge there's never been any animosity between us at all. We aren't competing; we both had similar goals, we just went about it in different ways. I'm sure that we had the same "in the know" people talking to us individually, too.

As far as I know, neither of us gained anything from this; she obviously makes no money from Facebook, and I actually lost a few advertisers (and you can be sure that there are now at least a few businesses that will never, ever advertise with us).

I can't speak for Megan, but I seriously doubt that either of us have given one second of thought to which of us posted something first.

UnoFire

Posted 5:15 pm, 05/08/2024

More support for legal pot than just about anything else besides day light savings time.

Sounds like a uniter.

backontrack

Posted 5:09 pm, 05/08/2024

Now look what u youguns has done. Trucker is mornlikely gonna be ur replacement commissioner and such. At least u fellers can bank on legal pot with ur pro vote.

|METALTRUCKER|

Posted 4:49 pm, 05/08/2024

I'm ecstatic I got to meet JC. One seriously cool dude,searing high IQ.
Gets comedic when two converse. About this situation,(we're both dog lovers),the characters on here. 90 lbers with guns letnem talk cash sh.
It was super stratospheric talking to GW web God.
I bet there was eassssily over 225 iq conservative. He is my friend. He can call upon me now. Anytime. I've got his 6.
As for the "Monty pythons circle jerk" I rode by afterwards?
I'm not your enemy. Let's keep it as such.
Yalls retirement is coming. So yall can go do WHAT TF YOU WANT TO DO VACATION FOREVER
I'm about 75% towards running for a seat. I've done my homework.
I see my agendas for what. I want to do for the BETTER of my home.
No matter my travels took me. I've seen more than 10 of you.
But? THIS IS MY HOME.MY ROOTS.MY BLOODLINES RUN DEEP HERE.
All the way hence when McGrady was McCREADY.
Saw a couple good people when I rode by. Some others?
(Insert ðŸ'© )
RS(R-I)

oldman72

Posted 2:52 pm, 05/08/2024

backontrack (view profile)

Posted 2:38 pm, 05/08/2024

Speaking of WTF, WTF differnce does it make which gets credit for doing they homework as long as the s*** gets did?

Both may have done all their own investigating but it was on here first. The FB person even posted screenshots from here on their personal page before they ever started talking about it or created their page. Either way I'm just glad to see him gone. I hope the Republican party picks a better replacement.

backontrack

Posted 2:38 pm, 05/08/2024

Speaking of WTF, WTF differnce does it make which gets credit for doing they homework as long as the s*** gets did?

Good Ole Boyz of Wilkes

Posted 2:26 pm, 05/08/2024

The Record of Wilkes didn't mention GoWilkes, only FB...wtf is all that about.

antithesis

Posted 1:24 pm, 05/08/2024

I plan to speak at tonight's meeting, and here is the visual aid for the presentation that I gave to the County Manager's office yesterday:


Jason, I looked through this but I don't really understand what I'm looking at. Can you explain how you came to the conclusion that he was involved in "at least 9 pit fights" and "provided at least 36 dogs for pit fighting?"

backontrack

Posted 10:55 am, 05/08/2024

Think u r correct on thatun, trucker. Feller is easily replaceable

|METALTRUCKER|

Posted 10:50 am, 05/08/2024

The red vase will nor come this time I'm afraid.
Outside of me? Numbers upon numbers know whom they are.
No.i don't see any further go-nad cloth for him.

ratshot

Posted 7:21 am, 05/08/2024

Is there a video of the last meeting

backontrack

Posted 7:12 am, 05/08/2024

Don't matter if they do, Butch. They's plenty of fez heads which is in line to replace him in all the goverment spots.

Foxnose

Posted 6:59 am, 05/08/2024

Nothing for him to worry about. His brethren in brimless hats will rush to his rescue. That red vase hat runs deep

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