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knslyr
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Posted 12:53 pm, 07/12/2024
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Gentleman you quote the "treaty of tripoli". Why did the US need a treaty with tripoli? Because the US had just handed tripoli their collective rearends for capturing and enslaving US Navy sailors. So in many ways the US was not founded as a christian nation but an anti-mohammadan nation. Not sure if my spelling is accurate, but I feel you will get the point. Black Jack Pershing also had a unique solution to islamist problems, but that's a story for another thread.
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|METALTRUCKER|
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Posted 10:58 am, 07/12/2024
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Racist filth another on the. National hate group watch list.
Just as is Church of the Creator.
The Ohio Delphi murders come to mind. These monsters need to be hunted.
Then dispatched with extreme prejudice.
SMF!
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Hamner of Justice
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Posted 8:44 pm, 07/11/2024
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Black Lives Matter should be declared a terrorist organization and a threat to America
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F5R
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Posted 8:43 pm, 07/11/2024
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I met God , She is Black.
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Gentleman ****
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Posted 4:59 pm, 07/10/2024
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Thank you for pointing out my error. The Treaty of Tripoli was not written by John Adams. Rather, it was signed by President Adams in 1797 after being ratified by the US Senate (unanimously and without debate--something else that I can't imagine happening today.)
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Foxnose
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Posted 3:55 pm, 07/10/2024
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antithesis | Posted 1:21 pm, 07/10/2024 | If a religion has to be enforced for people to believe it, then it's really not much of a religion. Is it?
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Save that good preaching Anti, I feel sure you will need a good response when you stand before the Great White Throne
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antithesis
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Posted 3:54 pm, 07/10/2024
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My how times have changed.
The parties more or less swapped ideologies in the last 40 years. You'll remember that Reagan campaigned on open borders! It was only when Clinton became President and incorporated a lot of Conservative ideals that the GOP had to switch sides.
If someone was a Republican in 1990 and is still a Republican today, they have no ideals of their own and are just partisan puppets. Same goes for the Democrats, of course.
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tribune
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Posted 3:54 pm, 07/10/2024
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Gent, it's refreshing to have someone that has a knowledge of history however, I think you'll find the letter to the Bey of Tunis that you referred to was written by Washington, approved by Adams and ratified by the senate. The founding fathers did not intend that the USA should become a theocracy. As to changes in party attitudes, what was the Southern Democrats is now the Southern Republicans. You can blame LBJ for that, "Letting them G.....n n.....s have the same rights as us decent folks!"
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the dog's butler
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Posted 3:48 pm, 07/10/2024
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If you replace Christian with moral, things fall into place as far as the constitution is concerned.
But Christisn Nationalists do mean CHRISTIAN and no other religion. That is why we have Oklahoma requiring all schools must incorporate the Bible and the Ten Commandments in curriculums. That I believe is unconstitutional
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Gentleman ****
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Posted 3:11 pm, 07/10/2024
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As I said before, there are extremists on every side of an issue.
It has oft been said that our "Founding Fathers" created the United States to be a "Christian Nation." However, that notion is undermined by the fact that none of our Founding Fathers wrote anything supporting the idea of Christian Nationalism. In fact, John Adams wrote "As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion,-" (Treaty of Tripoli, 1797)
Some have argued that the Supreme Court Justice Josiah Brewer declared in his Majority Opinion in "The Church of the Holy Trinity v. United States (1892) that the United States is a Christian Nation. While Justice Brewer did use those words (and was himself, by all accounts, a devout Christian) it is thought that he was referring to the fact that the majority of Americans were, in fact Christian and not that the government was based on Christian principles.
In his book entitled "The United States a Christian Nation" Justice Brewer wrote:
"But in what sense can [the United States] be called a Christian nation? Not in the sense that Christianity is the established religion or the people are compelled in any manner to support it....Neither is it Christian in the sense that all its citizens are either in fact or in name Christians. On the contrary, all religions have free scope within its borders. Numbers of our people profess other religions, and many reject all... Nor is it Christian in the sense that a profession of Christianity is a condition of holding office or otherwise engaging in public service, or essential to recognition either politically or socially. In fact, the government as a legal organization is independent of all religions."
I think it funny that many anti-Federalists (the ancient forerunners of today's Democrats) were against ratification of the Constitution because it was "godless." My how times have changed.
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tribune
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Posted 1:36 pm, 07/10/2024
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It's amazing how f*xxy never hears of things she doesn't agree with, guess if your TV's stuck on Faux News that's how it is.
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tribune
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Posted 1:32 pm, 07/10/2024
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Gent, I think you're right for the most part especially when it comes to people using political labels as pejoratives. But these are ignorant fools that have no idea what the actual philosophy is behind their manifestos. However, if someone refers to Trump and his followers as fascists they're merely stating facts, if it walks like a duck and so on.
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antithesis
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Posted 1:21 pm, 07/10/2024
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If a religion has to be enforced for people to believe it, then it's really not much of a religion. Is it?
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Gentleman ****
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Posted 11:12 am, 07/10/2024
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I think that "Christian Nationalism" is one of those politically charged phrases much like "communist" or "nazi." All of them pander to our belief that the "other" side is extremist and irrational. To be fair, there are people who are extremists on all sides of every issue, but I don't think most of us fall into that category.
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tribune
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Posted 10:55 am, 07/10/2024
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atheism is not a religion in fact the word itself means against RELIGIONS. The definition of religion is a system of belief and worship, atheists do not believe in, nor do they worship any deity.
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Foxnose
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Posted 10:35 am, 07/10/2024
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If you didn't run from Roy Cooper, no need to start running now
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the dog's butler
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Posted 8:59 am, 07/10/2024
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NC needs to run, not walk, away from Mark Robinson.
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Jimbojolly
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Posted 7:52 am, 07/10/2024
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It seems that the label fits Mark Robinson. You've never heard his claims?
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