Michael most folks think the word means Jesus. That's fine. But in reality it's more of a phrase to describe something. Keep in mind it's a Hebrew word and they were breaking away from Egypt and surrounded by idolatrous nations. Who could use the exact same word to reference their belief that a pagan deity was with them.
Words mean things and this one does not mean Jesus.
Now I agree with you that we should obey God.
What I disagree with you about is the notion that Jesus changed ANYTHING &&&&&
Jesus through what the Father told him did change a lot of things.
Michael most folks think the word means Jesus. That's fine. But in reality it's more of a phrase to describe something. Keep in mind it's a Hebrew word and they were breaking away from Egypt and surrounded by idolatrous nations. Who could use the exact same word to reference their belief that a pagan deity was with them.
Words mean things and this one does not mean Jesus.
Now I agree with you that we should obey God. What I disagree with you about is the notion that Jesus changed ANYTHING.
If someone is wrong, it must be you. You asked if anyone could define "Emmanuel" which is Biblically defined as "God is with us" in the 23rd verse of the first Chapter of Saint Matthew's Gospel.
If you wanted to know whom Jesus was speaking for you could have asked that question. But you failed to do that.
It is very poor form to blame others for your failures &&&&&&
I was speaking to
Thomas Hobbes (view profile)
Posted 5:17 pm, 06/29/2024
Michael this is a transliterated word from Hebrew. Short version any time you see "el" it means God but does not necessarily mean the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. It this case immanu - it means God is with us. And while it is used in reference to Jesus that's not what the word actually means .
mhj (view profile)
Posted 5:22 pm, 06/29/2024
God with us. God is speaking to us through Jesus. It means we are to OBEY God if we accept the Good News
If someone is wrong, it must be you. You asked if anyone could define "Emmanuel" which is Biblically defined as "God is with us" in the 23rd verse of the first Chapter of Saint Matthew's Gospel.
If you wanted to know whom Jesus was speaking for you could have asked that question. But you failed to do that.
It is very poor form to blame others for your failures.
Unfortunately, the interpretation of "speaking for God" does not fit the narrative when "Emmanuel" (or "Immanuel" or "God is with us" depending the Biblical translation one uses) is used in Isaiah &&:&&&
After reading that Jesus Emmanuel from the Good News that he was talking for his Father and what he is speaking is what the Father commands.
I accept Jesus as the prophet of MOSES prophecy.
The Lord your God will raise up for you a prophet like me from among you, from your fellow Israelites. You must listen to him. 16 For this is what you asked of the Lord your God at Horeb on the day of the assembly when you said, "Let us not hear the voice of the Lord our God nor see this great fire anymore, or we will die."
17 The Lord said to me: "What they say is good. 18 I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their fellow Israelites, and I will put my words in his mouth. He will tell them everything I command him. 19 I myself will call to account anyone who does not listen to my words that the prophet speaks in my name. 2
Unfortunately, the interpretation of "speaking for God" does not fit the narrative when "Emmanuel" (or "Immanuel" or "God is with us" depending the Biblical translation one uses) is used in Isaiah.
Michael this is a transliterated word from Hebrew. Short version any time you see "el" it means God but does not necessarily mean the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. It this case immanu - it means God is with us. And while it is used in reference to Jesus that's not what the word actually means.
