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Oh my it's through FAITH in Jesus we get to receive ETERNAL LIFE. Jesus took back The Scepter . Judah is No longer the Law Giver.

By your words you have blasphemed the messiah. If Jesus changed anything He is not God. God does not change. You have trampled underfoot the savior.

Thomas Hobbes (view profile)

Posted 6:09 pm, 06/30/2024

Michael most folks think the word means Jesus. That's fine. But in reality it's more of a phrase to describe something. Keep in mind it's a Hebrew word and they were breaking away from Egypt and surrounded by idolatrous nations. Who could use the exact same word to reference their belief that a pagan deity was with them.

Words mean things and this one does not mean Jesus.

Now I agree with you that we should obey God.

What I disagree with you about is the notion that Jesus changed ANYTHING
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Jesus through what the Father told him did change a lot of things.

Michael most folks think the word means Jesus. That's fine. But in reality it's more of a phrase to describe something. Keep in mind it's a Hebrew word and they were breaking away from Egypt and surrounded by idolatrous nations. Who could use the exact same word to reference their belief that a pagan deity was with them.

Words mean things and this one does not mean Jesus.

Now I agree with you that we should obey God. What I disagree with you about is the notion that Jesus changed ANYTHING.

Emmanuel= God IS with Us.
My apologies for leaving out leaving out IS because it's important that you acknowledge GOD not religion..

Mistress Anne (view profile)

Posted 5:45 pm, 06/30/2024

If someone is wrong, it must be you. You asked if anyone could define "Emmanuel" which is Biblically defined as "God is with us" in the 23rd verse of the first Chapter of Saint Matthew's Gospel.

If you wanted to know whom Jesus was speaking for you could have asked that question. But you failed to do that.

It is very poor form to blame others for your failures
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I was speaking to

Thomas Hobbes (view profile)

Posted 5:17 pm, 06/29/2024

Michael this is a transliterated word from Hebrew. Short version any time you see "el" it means God but does not necessarily mean the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. It this case immanu - it means God is with us. And while it is used in reference to Jesus that's not what the word actually means
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mhj (view profile)

Posted 5:22 pm, 06/29/2024

God with us. God is speaking to us through Jesus. It means we are to OBEY God if we accept the Good News

If someone is wrong, it must be you. You asked if anyone could define "Emmanuel" which is Biblically defined as "God is with us" in the 23rd verse of the first Chapter of Saint Matthew's Gospel.

If you wanted to know whom Jesus was speaking for you could have asked that question. But you failed to do that.

It is very poor form to blame others for your failures.

Mistress Anne (view profile)

Posted 4:56 pm, 06/30/2024

It makes no difference what you "accept." The English translation of the Greek rendering of two Hebrew words is not defined as "Speaking for God."

If your intended hypothesis was that Jesus spoke for God your post's title of "Can you define Emmanuel" was both misleading and superfluous.

Arguing that the term, Biblically defined in Matthew 1:23, means something different when used Biblically is silly

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Somebody is wrong. Jesus says he is speaking for the Father.

I read the Good News you should too.

Emmanuel speaking for God.

49 For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.

50 And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak

It makes no difference what you "accept." The English translation of the Greek rendering of two Hebrew words is not defined as "Speaking for God."

If your intended hypothesis was that Jesus spoke for God your post's title of "Can you define Emmanuel" was both misleading and superfluous.

Arguing that the term, Biblically defined in Matthew 1:23, means something different when used Biblically is silly.

Mistress Anne (view profile)

Posted 4:26 pm, 06/30/2024

Unfortunately, the interpretation of "speaking for God" does not fit the narrative when "Emmanuel" (or "Immanuel" or "God is with us" depending the Biblical translation one uses) is used in Isaiah
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After reading that Jesus Emmanuel from the Good News that he was talking for his Father and what he is speaking is what the Father commands.

I accept Jesus as the prophet of MOSES prophecy.

The Lord your God will raise up for you a prophet like me from among you, from your fellow Israelites. You must listen to him. 16 For this is what you asked of the Lord your God at Horeb on the day of the assembly when you said, "Let us not hear the voice of the Lord our God nor see this great fire anymore, or we will die."

17 The Lord said to me: "What they say is good. 18 I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their fellow Israelites, and I will put my words in his mouth. He will tell them everything I command him. 19 I myself will call to account anyone who does not listen to my words that the prophet speaks in my name. 2

Unfortunately, the interpretation of "speaking for God" does not fit the narrative when "Emmanuel" (or "Immanuel" or "God is with us" depending the Biblical translation one uses) is used in Isaiah.

Emmanuel speaking for God.

49 For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.

50 And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak.

Thomas Hobbes (view profile)

Posted 1:05 pm, 06/30/2024

Michael I said it means God is with us.

""You said it means Jesus is speaking through us.""

It does not mean that and it does not mean Jesus
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Is this what you are talking about?? If so you need to reread what I said.

mhj (view profile)

Posted 5:22 pm, 06/29/2024

God with us. God is speaking TO US THROUGH JESUS. It means we are to OBEY God if we accept the Good News

Michael I said it means God is with us. You said it means Jesus is speaking through us. It does not mean that and it does not mean Jesus.

Thomas Hobbes (view profile)

Posted 6:10 pm, 06/29/2024

Michael aren't you assuming I don't obey God? All I've said is what the word means

Thomas Hobbes (view profile)

Posted 5:40 pm, 06/29/2024

No Michael those are ideas attached to the word. Nothing wrong with those ideas but that's not what the word means
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It is what Emmanuel means. God is with US. You said that's not the word means. But it does.

Michael aren't you assuming I don't obey God? All I've said is what the word means.

Thomas Hobbes (view profile)

Posted 5:40 pm, 06/29/2024

No Michael those are ideas attached to the word. Nothing wrong with those ideas but that's not what the word means

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49 For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.

50 And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak.

God is With Us. Will you allow him into your Heart ❤️.

How can you be a child of God without OBEYING His WORD.

God said if you obey my voice I will be your God but the Israelites refused Jesus. So the Father sent Jesus with the Good News..

If you carry the Kingdom of God inside you should obey God.

◄q Luke 17:21 ►

King James Bible
Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

New King James Version
nor will they say, 'See here!' or 'See there!' For indeed, the kingdom of God is within you

No Michael those are ideas attached to the word. Nothing wrong with those ideas but that's not what the word means.

God with us. God is speaking to us through Jesus. It means we are to OBEY God if we accept the Good News.

Michael this is a transliterated word from Hebrew. Short version any time you see "el" it means God but does not necessarily mean the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. It this case immanu - it means God is with us. And while it is used in reference to Jesus that's not what the word actually means.