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How do people receive GODS GRACE?

Yes you are call into the Grace of God through FAITH. Stop your double talking. Go back to what Jesus taught.
◄ Luke 7:50 ►
Audio Crossref Comment Greek
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New International Version
Jesus said to the woman, "Your faith has saved you; go in peace."

New Living Translation
And Jesus said to the woman, "Your faith has saved you; go in peace."

English Standard Version
And he said to the woman, "Your faith has saved you; go in peace."

Berean Standard Bible
And Jesus told the woman, "Your faith has saved you; go in peace."

Berean Literal Bible
And He said to the woman, "Your faith has saved you; go in peace."

King James Bible
And he said to the woman, Thy faith hath saved thee; go in peace

Here are some words of Paul for you, MJ,

I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

Doublethink the issue.

sparkling water (view profile)

Posted 11:05 am, 06/27/2024

As you can see, Michael tosses out those parts of the Bible that contradict his teaching.

Michael passes judgment upon the word of God, and by extension, he passes judgment on God himself.

That ain't gonna work out very well
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Is Pauls letters the same as Jesus speaking ???

8. For it is BY GRACE you have been saved, THROUGH FAITH - and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God - 9not by works, so that no-one can boast

WITHOUT FAITH NO GRACE.

As you can see, Michael tosses out those parts of the Bible that contradict his teaching.

Michael passes judgment upon the word of God, and by extension, he passes judgment on God himself.

That ain't gonna work out very well.

ashehikingmom (view profile)

Posted 4:57 pm, 06/26/2024

God's Word says that we are saved by grace through faith.

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Book chapter and verse. Paul has his own INTERPRETATIONS.
Paul said that by Grace we are saved through grace. Not Gods word. If you read it correctly you will discover that
Paul says that Through FAITH we are saved by GODS Grace that is bestowed on people of FAITH . I'll be waiting for Book Chapter Verse where God spoke Grace you are SAVED. That's twisting the TRUTH because we are Saved by our FAITH because of GOD'S Grace. GRACE keeps you SAVED something that Christians ain't.

Forky, I've asked you before to provide an example of when Peter, Paul or any of the other Apostles wrote anything that is contrary to what Jesus said. In the past you have either ignored the request or, I suspect, been unable to find any such contradiction.

God's Word says that we are saved by grace through faith in Christ Jesus and not by our own efforts or works (Ephesians 2:8-9). Grace Alone! I don't rely on a preacher. I rely on my Savior, Jesus Christ. Even being saved we are not perfect. Jesus was the only flesh to walk upon the earth without sin. Your ramblings could cause someone to run from Jesus because they aren't perfect like you describe. You aren't perfect and are a sinner just like the rest of us. You can't deny it! Your ramblings in themselves are lies and that is a sin! We all fall short of the glory of God! Luckily, He loves us anyway.

[ The following statement goes to you Christians that rely on preachers to teach you Truth. One thing I've found is the people that look for Truth reads the Bible for themselves. Religion has made Pauls letters his interpretation to be equal to the teaching of Jesus making them Gods words. Trying to justify Sinning by saying things like saved by Grace ]

.15 And remember, our Lord's patience gives people time to be saved. This is what our beloved brother Paul also wrote to you with the wisdom God gave him- 16 speaking of these things in all of his letters
Some of his comments are hard to understand, and those who are ignorant and unstable have twisted his letters to mean something quite different, just as they do with other parts of Scripture. And this will result in their destruction

This is my second letter to you, dear friends, and in both of them I have tried to stimulate your wholesome thinking and refresh your memory. 2 I want you to remember what the holy prophets said long ago and what our Lord and Savior commanded through your apostles.

3 Most importantly, I want to remind you that in the last days scoffers will come, mocking the truth and following their own desires. 4 They will say, "What happened to the promise that Jesus is coming again? From before the times of our ancestors, everything has remained the same since the world was first created."

5 They deliberately forget that God made the heavens long ago by the word of his command, and he brought the earth out from the water and surrounded it with water. 6 Then he used the water to destroy the ancient world with a mighty flood. 7 And by the same word, the present heavens and earth have been stored up for fire. They are being kept for the day of judgment, when ungodly people will be destroyed.

14 And so, dear friends, while you are waiting for these things to happen, make every effort to be found living peaceful lives that are pure and blameless in his sight.15 And remember, our Lord's patience gives people time to be saved. This is what our beloved brother Paul also wrote to you with the wisdom God gave him- 16 speaking of these things in all of his letters.

[ The following statement goes to you Christians that rely on preachers to teach you Truth. One thing I've found is the people that look for Truth reads the Bible for themselves. Religion has made Pauls letters his interpretation to be equal to the teaching of Jesus making them Gods words. Trying to justify Sinning by saying things like saved by Grace ]

Some of his comments are hard to understand, and those who are ignorant and unstable have twisted his letters to mean something quite different, just as they do with other parts of Scripture. And this will result in their destruction

Gentleman **** (view profile)

Posted 6:47 am, 06/26/2024

Jesus told His disciples, Peter in particular, that they were to establish a Church.
Jesus gave them (especially Peter) that they had authority to determine what the Churcb was to teach.

((( YOU forbid the Laws of God to keep your traditions of the CATHOLICS Christian pagan religion))

Matthew 16:19 tells us that Jesus said "And I will give you the keys to the Kingdom of Heaven. Whatever you forbid on earth will be forbidden in heaven, and whatever you permit on earth will be permitted in heaven." (NLT)
And, again in Matthew 18:18, Jesus told His disciples "I tell you the truth, whatever you forbid on earth will be forbidden in heaven and whatever you allow on earth will be allowed in heaven." (NLT)

Much later, in his second letter Peter said that Paul's writings were "Scripture"

and that the ignorant and the unstable twist Paul's teachings "And this will lead to their own destruction." (2 Peter 3 NLT

Ask yourself; do I obey the teaching of Jesus or should I close my eyes to Jesus and follow what religion teaches when it goes against God?

How can Christian folk be so gullible? You are to be baptized into the kingdom of God . Being baptized into THE FATHER and SON AND HOLY SPIRIT you say we are to forget the Laws of God so you don't keep Gods Law. HOW DID GOD SAY THAT YOU WOULD BE HIS PEOPLE IF YOU DO WHAT? Obey the voice of religion or obey the voice of God?

Luke 16:16: "The Law and the Prophets were proclaimed until John. Since that time, the good news of the kingdom of God is being preached, and everyone is forcing their way into it"
Matthew 24:14: "And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come"
Mark 1:14: "Jesus came preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God"
Luke 4:43: "For this purpose I have been sent"
Luke 9:2: "He sent them to preach the kingdom of God"
Matthew 6:33: "Seek first the kingdom of God"
Luke 10:9: "The kingdom of God is near"
Mark 1:14-15: "The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand; repent and believe in the gospel"

Jesus told His disciples, Peter in particular, that they were to establish a Church. Jesus gave them (especially Peter) that they had authority to determine what the Churcb was to teach. Matthew 16:19 tells us that Jesus said "And I will give you the keys to the Kingdom of Heaven. Whatever you forbid on earth will be forbidden in heaven, and whatever you permit on earth will be permitted in heaven." (NLT) And, again in Matthew 18:18, Jesus told His disciples "I tell you the truth, whatever you forbid on earth will be forbidden in heaven and whatever you allow on earth will be allowed in heaven." (NLT)

Much later, in his second letter Peter said that Paul's writings were "Scripture" and that the ignorant and the unstable twist Paul's teachings "And this will lead to their own destruction." (2 Peter 3 NLT)

Study the good news and learn.

Where or when did Jesus ordain the Christian Religion?? How many gods do Christians have. The Baptist god the Presbyterian God Lutheran God Catholic God all the denominational gods.

Do you really think Jesus who was sent here to tell the World what the Creator is promising the world was joking?

Christ - Paul - Christians

Christian Religion started by the Pharisees in Antioch.

((When did Jesus appoint a religion? ))
Mark 13:23

"But take ye heed: behold, I have foretold you all things

((Jesus Promises the Holy Spirit))

15"If you love me, keep my commands. 16And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another advocate to help you and be with you forever- 17the Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for he lives with you and will be c in you. 18I will not leave you as orphans; I will come to you. 19Before long, the world will not see me anymore, but you will see me. Because I live, you also will live. 20On that day you will realize that I am in my Father, and you are in me, and I am in you. 21Whoever has my commands and keeps them is the one who loves me. The one who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I too will love them and show myself to them."

(((What did Jesus say and do at the Passover and last supper? ))

This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me. 20Likewise also the cup after supper, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood, which is shed for you. 21But, behold, the hand of him that betrayeth me is with me on the table. 22And truly the Son of man goeth, as it was determined: but woe unto that man by whom he is betrayed! 23And they began to inquire among themselves, which of them it was that should do this thing.

John 19:30

King James Version
30 When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.

((There is no religion in Jesus. If you need help allow the Holy Spirit to teach you. ))

17 And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.

18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:

19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

20 He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.

Forky, I've been trying to follow along, but I confess this 'en confused me. Try as I might I can't decipher what you're trying to ask. WIll you be a dear and explain it at me a little?