wilkes

Let me guess, you graduated from the community college program so you actually think you know more than my friend with a Master's Degree and over 10 years experience. You've got many years of learning to do.

Doesn't seem to matter which workgroup is in use with (start+run+\\ip address). Seems like a bad idea to use bridge mode on a modem.

After a little more thought, they would need to be doing the same (same network, no router, bridge mode, and default windows workgroup). I think you would see those computers, right? Probably shouldn't use bridge mode and mshome as a workgroup.

I've not tried this, but theoretically if you were not using a router and changed your dsl or cable modem to bridge mode, then your workgroup to mshome (windows default), would you not see every computer on the same network of those who were not keen enough to change to something besides mshome?

also go buy a book a good one is hacking exposed and contact me with your new theories. how secure is your network
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Why are all of you people trying to discredit me. is that your primary purpose.
seems like some people need to do some research them selves instead of asking others. i have just graduated college and everything we have talked about here i have done in labs and other places. you can call names and cast stones all you want i know these facts and have seen them work. and recently my home burned down so i really cant afford to "pay" for adds. and there isnt anyone else complaining. maybe i am helping people for free and hopefully someone needs my services so that is why i list all contact info. if advertising my info is spam then i am guilty

mannoc, I've noticed on almost all of the discussions you've managed to list your website and phone number. See the ads on the right hand side. Instead of spamming for business on here, pay for an ad like the other advertisers. I'm sure that gowilkes would appreciate you not taking advantage of their forums.

My money is on Otto and gowilkes being right on this one. I have a friend who works at (dare I say it) Lowe's in the tech dept. He agrees with them.

not your home network. you are on a network of a large scale that is controlled by subnetts, routers and firewall rules. you can telnet into a isp router and change rules by brute forcing the password. I have performed this hack many times over large networks. If you can ping an address you can do a lot more. for example some companies use aprogram called vnc for remote desktop. there is a google hack that will "help" you find the vnc servers and there are ways to brute force or capture the passwords but most arent even protected. What the isp co. does is Nat your address which means they switch out your addess in the datagram of a tcpip packet and put their address in its place so they have a large internal address and only use a few public addresses. wireless hacking is much easier because you dont have to deal with all of the other co. routers only the home user and I can break wep of large companies in under thirty minutes using my laptop equiped with backtrack or auditor. if i need to quit lameing things down let me know and I will bread out the tech stuff.

I don't mean to keep dogging you, mannoc, but I've heard the same thing you said from a lot of other people, and I believe that it's nothing more than a scare tactic to sell antivirus software or some other junk. I've made that same challenge to dozens of people, even in hacker newsgroups, and not once has anyone been able to do it.

The fact is, no ISP in the world will let you do what you've said. Sure, you could get into my hard drive if you were on my home network... assuming that I've set my hard drive to share folders. But not too many people are going to let a hacker come into their house to plug in to their home network! LOL

And sure, if I download and install Netbus, you can get in... considering Netbus is a program specifically designed to let people control my computer.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

So I think that what Jason said is pretty accurate. Unless you have a backdoor virus or program on your computer, or for some reason have let a hacker in to your home network AND had the lack of foresight to turn off sharing, then there's nothing anyone can do with your IP address... other than run tracert to see if it exists, of course.

I would have to be on your network for that to work c\\yourip\**** . how about you go download a version of netbus and we will try this again or do you have a wireless connection? here is a trace of the command that I ran just to see if i could see you.
2 780 ms 1 ms 1 ms 192.168.2.1

3 926 ms 961 ms 582 ms nc-71-54-56-1.dhcp.embarqhsd.net [71.54.56.1]

4 553 ms 591 ms 844 ms crncrcmt03 [65.41.232.213]

5 890 ms 962 ms 1097 ms sl-gw9-rly-6-0.sprintlink.net [160.81.19.1]

6 999 ms 819 ms 1057 ms sl-bb23-rly-3-0.sprintlink.net [144.232.14.37]

7 1047 ms 1054 ms 826 ms sl-bb20-dc-12-0-0.sprintlink.net [144.232.20.14]

8 989 ms 880 ms 848 ms sl-st20-ash-10-0.sprintlink.net [144.232.20.152]

9 746 ms 1026 ms 915 ms sl-ameronl-14-0.sprintlink.net [144.223.246.14]

10 971 ms 872 ms
your isp dosnt allow tracert or ping. thanks for the challenge but i have work to do.

Good challenge Otto! Let me know what happens.

Mannoc, I don't think that's entirely true. 7 years ago, maybe, back when every wannabe hacker in the world used NetSnoop, but not today. I don't know of ANY internet provider that doesn't use a series of firewalls on their servers, keeping all IP addresses dynamic.

Remote Assistance doesn't work the way you described. Sure, it let's someone control your computer remotely (as described), but it requires an invitation on your part. It doesn't just let any monkey in to your hard drive.

I should mention that, back in 2005, there was a vulnerability with Service Pack 2 that potentially allowed someone to bypass the Windows firewall, but they had this patched within a couple of weeks after the problem was reported. There haven't been any other problems reported afterward, and even this one required "some serious uber-hacking skills."
http://blog.washingtonpost....


Your claim that you can type \\your ip\**** to gain access to someone's hard drive is laughable. I don't mean to pick on you or anything, but it simply doesn't work that way! I guess, if someone has a backdoor virus on their computer or something, you may be able to do this by accessing a pre-specified port, but in order to do that you would have had to infected them with that virus first. But this has nothing to do with the IP address; you had to be stupid enough to install a virus on your computer.

I'm going to have to ask you to prove this one. I have an old computer running Windows 98 set up, and I just saved a text file on the C drive: C:\mannoc.txt

The IP address for this computer is 152.163.100.9, and I just made it static so that it will be the same for, say, 48 hours from now. No firewall, no antivirus program, nothing, and it is online. So, to prove your statement, please post the contents of the mannoc.txt file!

To make this perfectly legal: I hereby grant you, Mannoc, exclusive permission to access my hard drive using whatever means you deem necessary, until 2am on February 1.

I'll be waiting...

plus it is what your isp routers are allowing or not allowing.
if you want to play download cain and able scan your netwrok to see what hosts are alive and you can figure out the rest this isnt going to become a hacking tutorial.

if i can get your ip address I can run multiple programs to gain access to your pc. if you dont have a firewall it makes my life much easier. its like your phone number. I can send you a ping of death or and cause a denial of service attack which will slow down your internet or I can enumerate your user database and possibly catch your tcp packets from your pc to anywhere on the internet. if you are running xp there is a built in service that technicians use to performe diagnostice on your pc that allows them to control your mouse, keyboard and they have access to your data just like you would. by defalut on windows 2000 and earlier i could type \\your ip\**** in the run box and access your "c" drive and you dont want that.

Nothing, really. They can find out who your internet provider is, but that's about it.

FYI, each time you send an email your IP address is included; just right-click on the email before you open it and go to "Options," and it's listed under "Internet Headers."

In fact, most internet providers only have a handful of IP addresses. For instance, everyone in the US on AOL share one of 5 or 6 IP addresses.

since we have someone that says they can see our isp# what are they actually able to do with it? :?